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Very interesting Substack, and I just discovered it so forgive me if I over-comment on your articles. This comment is going to be a long one.

I can think of three different dissident groups whose meetings I attended in the 2000s, which were completely ruined by a crazy person. They all followed the same pattern.

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The first was a 9/11 truth group, and this woman would show up to events and dominate the conversation. She had a website which pioneered the theory that no planes hit the world trade center, and it was all holograms and special effects. She looked to be in her 60s. Half her hair was dyed bright orange and the other half was missing, but not uniformly so, as though she ripped it all out with her hand.

She had invented her own euphemistic swear works, like "shnit" and "farking", and her speech was littered with these nonsense words. She talked with her mouth full and when she yelled "FARK" food would fly out of her mouth. When she finished her plate she started asking people near her if she could eat their leftovers.

She was always accompanied by this man who wore a stetson hat and acted like a used car salesman, who, I discovered, was paying her living expenses. At one point, she was committed to a mental hospital and he got her out, claiming that "they" sent her there to silence her and that she needed to be free to spread her important message. So she kept coming to meetings and ruining them.

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The second organization was a radical environmentalist group whose meeting I attended once, hosted by a white guy in a Kufi hat. This young gutter punk showed up with his friend, who was built like a Navy SEAL but dressed like a bike messenger. The friend stopped at the door and left, and the kid came into the group, in which the host was seated across from a semi-circle of attendees.

So this punk pulls up a chair right next to the host, and now everyone has to face both of them. He reacts exaggeratedly to everything the presenter says (Whaaa? Yo that's fucked up! For real? Damn!) until he loses interest in the presentation and pulls out his iPhone, whose screen is completely shattered. He then proceeds to play a videogame on his phone with the volume up full-blast, until he cuts he thumb on the screen, then freaks out and calls his friend to come pick him up, and in doing so he also cuts his ear. So this kid is just stomping around this meeting, bleeding and cursing at no one. His friend does eventually come pick him up but by this point the whole meeting has lost momentum and is drawing to a close, anyway.

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The third meeting was for an alternative health organization notorious for vaccine skepticism. A doctor was there to give a talk about persistent toxins in the environment, and in our bodies. This guy showed up with a giant Big Gulp, sporting a long ponytail and a Ghostbusters II shirt pulled over his giant gut. He interrupted the doctor constantly, raising his hand and then just blurting out his question or comment even when it was barely relevant to the presentation. He was dropped off by his "girlfriend", an attractive, diminutive Asian woman who read as upper-middle class.

He was so disruptive that I intervened at one point and told him that we were here to listen to the doctor, not to him, and that he should be quiet. This shut him up for about 5 minutes and then he was back at it. My wife and I had a baby at this time, who slept through most of the talk but woke up at the end and started crying. Ponytail guy then started shushing the baby and complaining about his crying. I took my son and walked out on this meeting to find his "girlfriend" waiting for him in the parking lot.

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So in all three examples, we have a dissident meeting completely ruined by a raving nutcase. All three of these people were obviously mentally ill to even the least observant bystander. All three were dysfunctional to the point that they could never have gotten themselves to these meetings in the first place, if not for their handlers who were obviously in possession of their faculties.

A couple decades ago, I read a book called The Terror Factory that described how the FBI would entrap Muslims in bogus terrorist plots. It's been years since I read this book, but I remember this pattern standing out:

1. The FBI apprehends some con artist committing mail fraud, wire fraud, or some other scam that crosses state lines.

2. They give them the choice of either going to federal prison or cooperating with the FBI.

3. If they choose the latter, their expenses are paid by the FBI and they're given incentives to "find" would-be terrorists or other subversives in specific communities (in this case, Muslim ones).

4. The grifter then finds a bunch of dupes and suckers—often mentally ill or intellectually challenged—and becomes their de facto handler, where they're eventually drawn into some confected terrorism plot that the FBI can then "foil" and put the poor dupe in prison.

I suspect that the agents provocateur disrupting these meetings were not "feds" themselves, and the people giving them rides probably weren't, either—but whoever was handling the handlers probably were.

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